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Publication request raft-ietf-dnsext-trustupdate-timers-05




Title		: Requirements related to DNSSEC Trust Anchor Rollover
Author(s)	: M. StJohns
Filename	: draft-ietf-dnsext-trustupdate-timers-05
Date		: November 29, 2006

Document shepherd: Olaf Kolkman

This is a request to publish the document on the standards track

This draft relates to draft-ietf-dnsext-rollover-requirements and we
think these two documents should be treated together.


1) Have the chairs personally reviewed this version of the ID and do
    they believe this ID is sufficiently baked to forward to the IESG
    for publication?

There are no nits according to idnits 1.108 (via tools.ietf.org). One
could argue that DNSSEC terminology should have been expanded at first
use, the chairs thinks this is not needed.


2) Has the document had adequate review from both key WG members and
    key non-WG members? Do you have any concerns about the depth or
    breadth of the reviews that have been performed?


Yes during last-call this document has been reviewed in depth by (at
least) the following people.

    - Wouter Wijngaards
http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2006/ msg01270.html

    - Sam Weiler
http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2006/ msg01357.html

    - Scott Rose
http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2006/ msg01280.html

    - Andrew Sullivan
http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2006/ msg01306.html

    - Wesley Griffin
http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2006/ msg01372.html

    - Robert Story
http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2006/ msg01373.html

    - Suresh Krishnaswamy
http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2006/ msg01311.html

At an earlier phase the document has been reviewed by Eric Rescorla.
http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2006/msg01026.html

(Eric brought up a number of issues which were argued to be
operational issues concerning key handling and not relevant to the
protocol described in the draft.)

Reviewers have compared the properties of this rollover mechanism
with the goals as set in the rollover-requirements draft.

The reviewers are satisfied that the threshold-timers document satisfies (see
section 5 of draft-ietf-dnsext-rollover-requirements)

     1.  Scalability
     3.  General Applicability
     4.  Support Private Networks
     7.  Planned and Unplanned Rollovers
     8.  Timeliness
     10. New RR Types (unclear requirement, but no new RR type needed)
     11. Support for Trust Anchor Maintenance Operations
           (accomplishes replace w/ separate add/delete)
     12. Recovery From Compromise
     13. Non-degrading Trust

There have been ('non-blocking') comments about:

     5.  Stale Trust Anchor Detection
     	 Depending on how many revoked DNSKEYs are in the RRset

     6.  Manual Operations
     	 From the resolver point of view the operations may be difficult
	 to perform manually, on the zone-owner side manual operations is
	 not a problem.	

     9.  High Availability

     	 In particular the amount of revoked DNSKEYs could increase
         the size of the DNSKEY RRset to


     2.  No Intellectual Property Encumbrance

     Folk have been reluctant to comment on the status of the IPR
     claims more about this at 4) below.


3) Do you have concerns that the document needs more review from a
    particular (broader) perspective (e.g., security, operational
    complexity, someone familiar with AAA, etc.)?


We think this document has had sufficient review, also from security
savvy reviewers, on the other hand a final review will never hurt.


4) Do you have any specific concerns/issues with this document that
    you believe the ADs and/or IESG should be aware of? For example,
    perhaps you are uncomfortable with certain parts of the document,
    or whether there really is a need for it, etc., but at the same
    time these issues have been discussed in the WG and the WG has
    indicated it wishes to advance the document anyway.


The rollover-requirements draft states that the preferred solution
should not be IPR encumbered. Mr. Moreau claims that a patent applies
(see
http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2006/msg01283.html)
The editor does not agree with this statement.

We do not know if Mr. Moreau followed the instructions in 6.1.3 of
BCP79.

Besides, Diversinet claimed IPR
(see https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_search.cgi? option=document_search&document_search=ietf-dnsext-trustupdate-timers)

It should also be noted that there were a number of proposals from
which this particular draft was selected. This included
draft-ietf-dnsext-trustupdate-threshold (covered by the same
Diversinet IPR claim) and draft-moreau-dnsext-takrem-dns-02.txt (see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_detail_show.cgi?ipr_id=639). The
draft-moreau-dnsext-takrem-dns-02 draft was published with a
non-derivative clause.

The working group has been made aware of the IPR claims and they were
not subject to further discussion about applicability.




5) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document?  Does it
    represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others
    being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with
    it?


The selection for this particular proposal was done during the
face-2-face meeting in Montreal and met wide consensus. This consensus
was confirmed on-list. Also during the last call there were several
folk that supported this document explicitly.


6) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme
    discontent?  If so, please summarize what are they upset about.

Mr. Moreau has indicated that he would abtain from providing input on
this draft because he is not satisfied with the requirements
draft. (http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2006/ msg01327.html).
He has not threatened with an appeal.



7) Have the chairs verified that the document adheres to _all_ of the
    ID nits?  (see http://www.ietf.org/ID-nits.html).


Yes.


8) For Standards Track and BCP documents, the IESG approval
    announcement includes a writeup section with the following
    sections:

    - Technical Summary

    The document describes a means for automatically updating public
    keys that are configured in DNSSEC aware resolvers. New
    trust-anchors are configured when signatures over them can be
    validated using the previous trust-anchors. By introducing explicit
    revocation and a delay mechanism the chances of an attacker
    introducing a mala fide trust-anchor after a key compromise are
    mitigated, albeit not solved.


    - Working Group Summary

    There is a broad consensus that this solution provides a workable
    key-rollover. The working group is aware IPR issues.

    - Protocol Quality

    There are no implementations yet. The chairs are aware of at least
    1 and maybe 2 independent organizations that plan on
    implementing. At least one implementer has done in-depth review
    during last call.

    The chairs are of the opinion that after implementations are
    written there is probably millage in documenting operational
    experiences.

				


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Olaf M. Kolkman
NLnet Labs
http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/



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